hey guys

i restarted playing the hobbit sbg after a pause of 5 years.
I'm currently restarting with a moria army but i'm hesitating between a power punch list or just try it on numbers.. This would be my 'elite' list.

Warband 1 10/12
Drûzhag the Beastcaller
5 Moria Goblin Warrior with Shield;
5 Moria Goblin Warrior with Spear;
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Warband 2 10/12
Ashrâk
5 Moria Goblin Warrior with Shield;
5 Moria Goblin Warrior with Spear;
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Warband 3 11/12
Wild Warg Chieftain
6 Wild Warg
5 Venom-back Spider
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Warband 4 2/12
Moria Goblin Captain
2 Bat Swarm
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Warband 5 0/0
Spider Queen
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total points: 698
total units 38
break point: 19
no bows :/

i've played 4 games already, different scenarios, all of them without any use for archers..


so should i put some goblins with bows in or?

thanks

With all the fast moving units you have something of a counter to enemy bows as it stands but I would always advise including at least some. Marauders might server you better with this kind of force though. You could swap out some spiders and wargs, I'm not sure how the points would work out exactly, and put two in with the warg chieftain. That would give so some ranged fire to threaten stuff with but also keep your killing power up. Plus your shooting with be mobile enough to support your faster stuff directly.

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"Draw your sword with a heavy heart, but swing it with a heavy hand"

No archers! They suck nowadays especially because no volley and because movement causes accyrazy penalty.

The beastly fast-hitting group is cool but perhaps mixture them into other hordes so they won't die before causing dmg (low def high s). U could consider for fun to replace queen with shelob. This because shelon has all skills but a high A, and ur shaman could fix this. Queen has rely low def/wounds so it might be riscy be used by shaman.

I would say no on archers. The Marauders are super good though. I really the Gundabad blackshields, a lot of people also say the Prowlers are worth it. I've never really liked the spider army at least not for Moria but mostly cause it doesn't feel very themey to me. Both the Queen and Shelob are definitely strong models which could totally give you a little more killing power and a real threat for people to have to worry about.

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Cheers,

P