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 Post subject: Wraiths without Darts
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:58 pm 
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I personally have never been a big fan of the Black Dart spell for the Ringwraiths, even though I know there is some evidence for its existence in the books. I was just wondering, for those of you who have played through the first journey book, how hard do you think it would be for the ringwraiths to win those scenarios without that spell?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:15 am 
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Before the Channeled spells, Black dart was mainly used to assassinate banners and weak targets. Fate made it near worthless against heroes. So Pre-Hobbit rules, it really wasnt necessary to win scenarios.....now however, the channeled spell wrecks monsters and lighter heroes but I still wouldnt say it is hard to win without it.....Transfix, Sap Will and Compell are far more useful since the casting cost of Black Dart is so high....Honestly, I think of Black dart as a utility spell but not one I would cast every turn
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:23 am 
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I almost never use black dart. It's a huge waste of will in most cases. Transfix, compell, and sap will are typically far more useful

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:36 am 
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I just had this mental image of the Nine playing darts in a pub....

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:03 am 
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JamesR wrote:
I almost never use black dart. It's a huge waste of will in most cases. Transfix, compell, and sap will are typically far more useful
Indeed. The Channelled version is even more risky. You expend a Might, then a good few Will points in order to succesfully cast it on that 5+ (so as not to waste the Might), then need a 3+ to Wound (4+ against a few targets) and then need another 3+ on the D3 roll, or the Might is still wasted as you'll cause just a single wound anyway. Assuming the target doesn't have a Will/Reistant to Magic, which makes it even less likely to succeed.
If you can reach the target in melee, much better to transfix, charge some guys in and cause a wound (or more) that way.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:51 pm 
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Thank you guys for the replies. They are all very reassuring. I really don't get much gaming in nowadays, but you guys definitely make up for that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:46 pm 
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only wraith might be usefull using the dark its the undying, but just cause he got really alot will points.
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