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 Post subject: Re: gondor needs help!!-a grisly end
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:20 pm 
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But DocDeath along as your having fun, that's what matters. Plus yeah I understand what your saying, you could field the perfect army and still lose, there are so many variables in a game that could change things.
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Well summarised. Xelee I'm still going to play haldir !! :P
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:30 pm 
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So your gonna play Aragon, Haldir,Thranduil?? Nice to know! Il not play my monsters now haha
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:40 pm 
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Aaarhh you evil genius :x
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:45 pm 
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Hes not a genius to read a few posts lol.

Also, you should definately take Xelees advice.

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Which part of the advice?
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Most of it, no need to be specific.

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Legolas, I was trying to help you but if you don't actually want an answer, why ask the question? Quibbling about every small thing doesn't really help you all that much and I'm a little mystified as to what the point of all of that was? :)

DOCdeath, fortunately for you the remedy for lack of experience is to play through heaps of fun games of WOTR :D Haldir isn't bad per se, it's just your opponent hasn't exactly taken any second best choices. However, I always admire a player willing to put up with slight handicaps.

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There is something I want to say actually concerning your chances of winning. No list IS IN ITSELF overpowered but every list CAN BE overpowered.

And the only reason I said Isildur and Imrahil over Aragorn was quantity of heroes.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:27 pm 
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[quote="Xelee"]Legolas, I was trying to help you but if you don't actually want an answer, why ask the question? Quibbling about every small thing doesn't really help you all that much and I'm a little mystified as to what the point of all of that was? :)
What exactly are you talking about Xelee? I just thought your dictionary definition was quite funny and I'm Mystified that from a list of armies you know exactly what a player is thinking.
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DOCdeath, fortunately for you the remedy for lack of experience is to play through heaps of fun games of WOTR :D Haldir isn't bad per se, it's just your opponent hasn't exactly taken any second best choices. However, I always admire a player willing to put up with slight handicaps.[/quote]

Well said xelee, I appreciate that fielding a lot of core troops is probably the best way to go , but at times it can be a little repetitious . It is fun to try different combos now and again , one of my favourite 'the three hunters'.
Gothmog trust me he really is an evil genius .
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:09 pm 
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Well DocDeath, what can we say? Another Grisly defeat this evening at the hands of the Super Goblins! I think you should start collecting Elves!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:16 pm 
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Did your friend play Aragon, Thranduil and Haldir? Just wondering because I play MM and wondered how you managed against those epics?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:24 pm 
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Jazlotus wrote:
Well DocDeath, what can we say? Another Grisly defeat this evening at the hands of the Super Goblins! I think you should start collecting Elves!!!!

That's a bit harsh, Elves seem to have a very distinct shelf-life in that they definitely have their tricks but the solutions to those are relatively straightforward and once-burnt, twice shy.

What this thread is really prompting me to wonder is just how common all of these combinations are amongst the wider LOTR gaming community? I mean, I know a Mumak would be useful to a Moria list but could never see myself doing it, fails the "too silly to be able to carry out the act of unpacking the army before a game." Test (a very odd balancing act where Toy Soldiers are different degrees of silly.) Same goes for Thranduil (maybe Thranduil with 4th Age Ithilien?) or Galadriel in Gondor. At the same time, armies based around on what armies actually had historically, in the stories (ie lots of largely similar troops) seem to be considered odd - so I guess this is your opening to rush in and say, "yes Xelee you are very odd indeed and your notion of 'realistic' is at complete odds with Tolkien/reality" :-D

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By way if interest Xelee, what army do you play? And at what point level do you play?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:41 pm 
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I play Isengard (Dunland) , Angmar (Carn Dum), and Gondor (Ithilien!) Gondor and Isnegard get to fight at a range of points levels but never over 2000 points, while poor Angmar is really a 1500pt max list and I still have 140 pts of 2HW Orcs to complete for this. The Gondor and Isengard lists are the most troop-heavy. I do not own a Mumak but am envious of others and people were encouraging me to go down the 'Wooly Mumak' route a while back.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:36 am 
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Xelee wrote:
I mean, I know a Mumak would be useful to a Moria list but could never see myself doing it, fails the "too silly to be able to carry out the act of unpacking the army before a game." Test (a very odd balancing act where Toy Soldiers are different degrees of silly.)

Straight out of the box, units as presented, yeah I agree with you.

On the other hand I intend to build a Warhammer Fantasy Arachnorok to serve as a goblin Mumak which I think will be very in theme, and a Mt. Gundabad/frozen wastes themed goblin army with a well converted Woolly Mumak would be (I think) sufficiently cool to pass that test.


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Definitely, I think it can only ever be a personal thing (since we all like different things) and I am really asking out of a growing sense that what I quite like seems to be different from many posters here!

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What do you mean by straight out of the box units?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:32 pm 
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NotLegolasJustTipsy wrote:
What do you mean by straight out of the box units?

Unconverted, using just the basic, generic GW color scheme. Using the models just as they are presented by GW without any real personalization.
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