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| Author: | Dragonslayer [ Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | help with Gray company and arnor |
Hi there. Gray company- Im thinkin of starting a gray Company army, a Whole lot of Archers with F4 is the way for me  Problem is, that every time i read about them, Theres a dunadain leading 4 rangers - so alot of small Groups ? Can a dunadain/ranger of the North (all have heroic moves) Lead MORE rangers than 4 eatch ? I like them to leed a Whole full 12 man warband pr dunadain. Arnor- (warriors of Arnor Can arnor include warhorns ? Dosent say in the "legions of arnor" sourcebook |
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| Author: | polywags [ Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
Its the kingdoms of men army book is what you're looking for. The rangers cant lead but you do need to take them in order to take the ranger of arnor. If you cant get a hold of it google the DCHL hobbit league and shoot them an email and they might be able to hook you up. |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
I love grey company! As Dunedain and RoTN are independent heroes, you will have to build a normal warband with one of Arnor's captains (Gorn, Arathorn, Halbarad, generic Capt, Elladan/Elrohir, Malbeth or Arvedui). Then, field at least 3 Dunedain/RoTN to allow the warband to be made up of up to 12 ranger's of arnor. My army was made up of Gorn, Arathorn, and Malbeth in addition to enough RoTN to fill up a 600 point army with Arnor Rangers. It was a blast! There is something to be said for 20 some odd bows being fired at one time. A word to the wise, the grey company is squishy so maintain your distance as best you can. Also, abuse Aragorn. Abuse him hard! Don't forget your rerolls and free might. Aragorn should be knocking out at least 2 guys per turn once close combat happens. With that being said, don't be in a hurry to start a melee, but once it does happen bring Gorn's full weight to bear. And don't forget Malbeth's "fury" saves. Lastly, if you are really ambitious (mod'ing) you can mount all your RotN and make yourself a cool cavalry! |
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| Author: | Dikey [ Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
Dragonslayer wrote: Hi there. Gray company- Im thinkin of starting a gray Company army, a Whole lot of Archers with F4 is the way for me Problem is, that every time i read about them, Theres a dunadain leading 4 rangers - so alot of small Groups ? Can a dunadain/ranger of the North (all have heroic moves) Lead MORE rangers than 4 eatch ? I like them to leed a Whole full 12 man warband pr dunadain. Arnor- (warriors of Arnor Can arnor include warhorns ? Dosent say in the "legions of arnor" sourcebook The Grey Company has a special rule: for every Dunedain and/or Ranger of the north, it may field 4 Rangers of Arnor. That rule overrides the 33% Bow limit. That means, if you take 3 Dunedain/RotN you can field 12 rangers and have an army with 100% bows. Rangers of the north and dunedains are indipendent heroes. that means that each of them one-man warband. To lead rangers, you still need Heroes of Arnor, which are: -Aragorn, Isildur's Heir -Halbarad -Arathorn -Malbeth -Elladan & Elrohir -Captain of Arnor. To put it simply, I made an example list in this spoiler Click to: Show As you can seen, since I have 6 RotN, I can field 24 Rangers and have 100% bows. However, those rangers have to be lead by another hero. The Arnor units can be found in the "kingdoms of men" sourcebook. The only units avalaible are Rangers and Warriors of Arnor. Warriors have access to banner, but not to a warhorn, if I remember correctly. |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
If you want a crg boost, in a way, field halbarad with the banner of arwen or was it banner of the evenstar. |
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| Author: | Dikey [ Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
jdizzy001 wrote: If you want a crg boost, in a way, field halbarad with the banner of arwen or was it banner of the evenstar. Banner of the evenstar. If the force has many Warrior of Arnor, this banner is almost a must expecially with a Nazgul around. if an army has plenty of terror-inducing model (Angmar) or access to Aura of Dismay and the main force is made of WoA there is a serious risk that the opponent will dictate the pace of the fights (I did it with Raddy in a dwarf army and my friend still hates me for that) |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
That being said, the rangers crg value is very different from the WoA's value. If you are going to field WoA, be sure to use the banner and arvedui as his stand fast is 12". A word of caution about Arvedui. He is not a hero-killer. He is a warrior hunter. He excels at killing orcs. Trolls or bigger? No, use your rangers for that. I would rely on Arathorn. For 75 points you will be hard pressed to find a better 3A hero. I have heard the arguments about Arathorn vs Halbarad. I like them both but... #teamarathorn |
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| Author: | judgedoug [ Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
So to field a Pelargir/Pelennor Fields accurate force, I could do WARBAND 1 Dunedain WARBAND 2 Dunedain WARBAND 3 Dunedain WARBAND 4 Dunedain WARBAND 5 Dunedain WARBAND 6 Dunedain WARBAND 7 Aragorn (leader) 12 Rangers WARBAND 8 Halbarad w/ fancy banner 12 Rangers Which is pretty close to accurate as there were 30 members of the Grey Company plus Halbarad right? |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
That is about what a Grey company force looks like. |
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| Author: | Dikey [ Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
judgedoug wrote: So to field a Pelargir/Pelennor Fields accurate force, I could do WARBAND 1 Dunedain WARBAND 2 Dunedain WARBAND 3 Dunedain WARBAND 4 Dunedain WARBAND 5 Dunedain WARBAND 6 Dunedain WARBAND 7 Aragorn (leader) 12 Rangers WARBAND 8 Halbarad w/ fancy banner 12 Rangers Which is pretty close to accurate as there were 30 members of the Grey Company plus Halbarad right? plus halbarad and the twins. |
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| Author: | TheBlondeRider [ Sun May 01, 2016 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
My 700 point list is: Halbarad Dunedain, horse, Banner of Arwen Evenstar 12 Rangers of Arnor Elladan & Elrohir, horses, heavy armour, Elf bows 10 Rangers of Arnor 6 Rangers of the North, 3 spears 2 Dunedain Rangers I believe there were some point left, so i've thrown in multiple spears (at least 4 in each warband) and after that moumt some Rangers of the North. That makes it -more- correct, Halbarad, carrying the banner, 30 rangers and with them rode the twin sons of Elrond. I would absolutely love to see a fully mounted, proper 30-strong Ranger of the North army led by Halbarad and the Twins. Don't know how many point that would be though! |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Tue May 03, 2016 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
That would be amazing. |
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| Author: | WarriorOfGondor [ Tue May 24, 2016 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
Does Halbarad get -1 to his roll with the banner or is he like Boromir? |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Tue May 24, 2016 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help with Gray company and arnor |
Halbarad suffers the -1 penalty. If he was immune to it his profile would explicitly state so, as it does in Boromir's profile. |
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