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Author:  Galanur [ Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:27 pm ]
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Elfhelm, Marshal of the East-Mark
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Elfhelm, Marshal of the East-Mark___________________________________points value: 90 ___________________________________________________________________________
Move ____F____S____D____A____W____C____M____W____F
6"_____5/4+___4____7____2_____2____4____3_____1____2

wargear: Heavy armour, shield

master tactician: soldiers (not heroes) count Elfhelm
as a standart bearer with 6" range

Options:
º horse...............................10pts
º If your army includes Elfhelm, you can
upgrade any number of Riders of Rohan to
Eastfold Greenshields at the cost of +2 points
per model. Eastfold Greenshields are Strength 4,
rather than 3 (this upgrade cannot be combined with
erkenbrand´s westfold redshields upgrade)

Special Rules:
Expert Rider. See main rules manual.


What you think?
Author:  Constantine [ Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:32 pm ]
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I have no suggestions to make; it seems like a balanced profile, but maybe the strength upgrade should cost 2 points.
Author:  Galanur [ Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:56 pm ]
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its alreayd at 2pts :P
Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:53 pm ]
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No it should be one. That's the base point cost for a point of strength on a model.
Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:27 am ]
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So an Eastfold Greenshield is basically a mounted Helmingas?

Well, I suppose why not :roll:

Nice profile 8)
Author:  Galanur [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:19 am ]
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well there would be some alternatives but not sure...

only riders of rohan or on foot or both?

Or would give em:
+1 shooting or
+1S or
+1A or
+ 1 courage?
or allow em somehow use spears?
Author:  halauas [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:34 am ]
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i think having cavalry at str 4 with 15 points (13+your 2 pt cost) is pretty much overpowered :(

maybe increase their mounts move?
shoot value
OR having their throwing weps to +1 str, that would be nice and balanced :D
Author:  SuicidalMarsbar [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:56 am ]
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@halaus: Warg riders are str 4 cavalry that cost 13pts, the greenshields won't be op.

I like the profile alot, it works as it is. The only thing i would do is cut the pts cost down to 70.
Author:  Bernardo [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:49 am ]
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that master tactician looks like a very powerful rule.
a banner within 6" for as good as no points is incredibly useful for rohan, as they have got no spears.
So I think the model is underpriced because of that rule.
for the rest, it sounds nice!
strength upgrade for 2 points is good I think.
Author:  whafrog [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:23 pm ]
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He's the same cost as Eomer fully kitted, but much more effective, so he probably needs to be another 10 points at least, but the rules are good, and the 2 points for the S upgrade seems reasonable.
Author:  Galanur [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:51 pm ]
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made up some changes...
Author:  VandalCabbage [ Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:10 pm ]
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This is really good! Distinctive but not over-the-top. I'd defenitly use him if I played Rohan.
Author:  Delirivm [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:04 am ]
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Awesome profile!
Compared him to Grimbold/Erkenbrand/Imrahil and I'd say he is correctly priced.

Seems like it would be fun to play themed battles with him.
Author:  Galanur [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:23 am ]
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Delirivm wrote:
Awesome profile!
Compared him to Grimbold/Erkenbrand/Imrahil and I'd say he is correctly priced.

Seems like it would be fun to play themed battles with him.


try him out :)
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