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I've only been playing for a few months and my first games were WOTR and as much as I enjoy it, I think that SBG is just that bit more engaging and you can really get involved with individual characters.

Both have their own pros and cons so I'm gonna play both.

Are there any weak armies in this version of the game? For instance the elves were poor in WOTR?

Can you go on in a bit more detail? I don't wanna spend £50 on 2 books only to not enjoy it as much as WOTR, what makes it more engaging? And why can you get involved more with the characters? Thanx x

That orc and his trusty sidekick spear supporter holding a gap between two rocks while Glorfindel bears down can be an epic moment.

whafrog wrote:

That orc and his trusty sidekick spear supporter holding a gap between two rocks while Glorfindel bears down can be an epic moment.

Not for the orc player, those 2 orcs are as good as dead.

The elves are a very powerful army. They have some of the best heros in the game, without them being too expensive (Thranduil and Son, Glorfindel). The weakest army (aka the hardest to play well) is Rohan, but that can be fixed quite easily by allying in some guys from Gondor.

Not for the orc player, those 2 orcs are as good as dead.

Does the little soft back rules book contain everything in the hard bak book then?

So is an Elven army decent in SBG?

Does the little soft back rules book contain everything in the hard bak book then?

Author:	NotLegolasJustTipsy [ Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:43 pm ]
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So everyone, I have never played SBG before, only WOTR, so I'm wondering if this new version is worth me getting into? What does everyone think? Is this warbands any good?

Author:	Raukov [ Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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If you like skirmish games, yes. I mean, if you play WotR then I assume you already have miniatures, all you'd need to do would be pick up the rules and the sourcebook for whatever you play.

Author:	KhazadAi-menu [ Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:03 pm ]
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I've only been playing for a few months and my first games were WOTR and as much as I enjoy it, I think that SBG is just that bit more engaging and you can really get involved with individual characters. Both have their own pros and cons so I'm gonna play both.

Author:	whafrog [ Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:55 pm ]
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I'm not into WotR-style tray games at all, so YES, SBG is worth it

Author:	Draugluin [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:10 am ]
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SBG is an extremely fun game. You can play a much wider variety of games with it rather then the straight up clashes of armies. Definitely worth playing.

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Author:	NotLegolasJustTipsy [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:07 am ]
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How many pieces do you typically need to play a game? And what armies are good in SBG as I'm sure it's different to WOTR?

Author:	Draugluin [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:13 pm ]
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You need anywhere between 10-100 models, depending on the size of the game your playing, but anything over about 75 models gets boring fast.

Author:	Draugluin [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:15 pm ]
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Rohan is still one of the hardest armies to play, while the Moria armies are quite similar to those in WotR, swarm em with goblins and then smash em with cave trolls and the Balrog.

Author:	Raukov [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:16 pm ]
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NotLegolasJustTipsy wrote: Are there any weak armies in this version of the game? For instance the elves were poor in WOTR? It's a lot better balanced than WotR. What faction(s) do you play, anyway? You'll find that many players still consider Rohan to be lacklustre, but they certainly aren't terrible.

Author:	Raukov [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:59 pm ]
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You'll do fine with either of those. Goblins will need a lot more heroes than you might be used to, but that shouldn't be much of a problem. All the fallen realms factions are solid and tend to complement eachother well. As for the rulebook, you may not have to shell out for the hardback; there are usually a few of the little ones that come in the starter set floating around on ebay for a much better price.

Author:	whafrog [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:04 pm ]
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NotLegolasJustTipsy wrote: Can you go on in a bit more detail? I don't wanna spend £50 on 2 books only to not enjoy it as much as WOTR, what makes it more engaging? And why can you get involved more with the characters? Thanx x This is better experienced than talked about, so if you are near a GW shop and can find someone to take the time you'll be able to make a more informed decision. Like others have said, what I like about it is it feels more personal. Rather than the illusion of big armies and formations, it really is 1:1. That wose you stuck in the woods really is a guy in the woods taking a potshot at some orcs. That orc and his trusty sidekick spear supporter holding a gap between two rocks while Glorfindel bears down can be an epic moment. I think you can set up more interesting scenarios because it doesn't always have to be about battle, it can be about evasion, subterfuge, flight, ambush, and other stories. I think the SBG boards look better, because you can include many more small pieces that would get in the way of the WotR trays, giving a lot more tactical variability. In short, SBG is less abstract and more wysiwyg. As for which armies are better: I think SBG on the whole is more balanced than WotR, you can make almost anything work. The new profiles appear to have fixed a few issues (while, of course, introducing others), but on the whole it still looks balanced. Pick something based on the flavour and aesthetics, isn't that what LotR is all about anyway?

Author:	Draugluin [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:23 pm ]
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whafrog wrote: That orc and his trusty sidekick spear supporter holding a gap between two rocks while Glorfindel bears down can be an epic moment. Not for the orc player, those 2 orcs are as good as dead. The elves are a very powerful army. They have some of the best heros in the game, without them being too expensive (Thranduil and Son, Glorfindel). The weakest army (aka the hardest to play well) is Rohan, but that can be fixed quite easily by allying in some guys from Gondor.

Author:	whafrog [ Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:19 pm ]
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Draugluin wrote: Not for the orc player, those 2 orcs are as good as dead. Tell it to my son's specially painted white-haired goblin. We've had several games where he's threaded the needle across a couple in-the-ways to take out a pesky elf, or single-handedly held off 2 RoR for a couple of turns, or was the last to run in a game to the death. Lots of fun NotLegolasJustTipsy wrote: Does the little soft back rules book contain everything in the hard bak book then? If you mean the MoM book with some profiles in it, yes, it's page-for-page the same. You don't need anything else, except for the new books for the region you want. NotLegolasJustTipsy wrote: So is an Elven army decent in SBG? Yep. I have yet to play with the new profiles and war band rules, but I had a lot of success with a Galadhrim/Wood elf force with the LoME rules, I don't see it changing much except for the number of heroes, e.g.: Rumil + Haldir + Stormcaller. Though now I'm looking forward to trying out Celeborn and/or Galadriel.

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