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| Author: | jadin72 [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Morder 500pts Reality Check |
Hi all, I have an upcoming 500pt doubles tourney coming up and I need a hand reality-checking my army. My doubles partner will likely be running haradrim with a knight of umbar on fell beast. I am thinking a Morder Uruk army built around Shagrat. I am thinking either of these lists: List 1: Beefy Shagrat 6 Mordor Uruk with shield 4 With 2h mace Black Guard Captain 4 Black Guard 6 Morannon Orc with spear + shield 1 morannon with shield and banner Gorbag with shield 5 trackers 2 morgul stalkers 500pts, 5 bows, 31 models, 8 might. List 2: Beefy Shagrat Uruks as above Mordor troll chieftain 9 morannons with shield + spear 1 morannon with shield/spear/banner Castellan of Dol Guldor with morgul blade 500pts, 23 models, 5 might. Are either of these lists competitive? What might their strengths/weaknesses be? How could I improve them? Thanks heaps! |
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| Author: | Arthas367 [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Morder 500pts Reality Check |
Well as far as mordor uruks go, I think they are ok but generally lose out to Morannon on cost effectiveness, the d4 usually means they get cleaned up by Heroes/ other s4. If the black guards C value works off friendly wraith, the leadership will be greatly appreciated. Be careful with leaving your numbers dangerously low, especially with wraithless/ fury less (why no fury? Another reason I prefer Orcs) A good thing to keep in mind, theme rarely = competitve in games, LotR Sbg is no exception |
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| Author: | jadin72 [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Morder 500pts Reality Check |
Thanks for my reply, here is my revision: Beefy Shagrat 4 Mordor Uruk with shield 2 with 2hand 4 Black Guard Orc warrior with banner Morannon orc captain 12 morannons, shield and spear Mordor orc shaman 2 morgul stalkers 4 trackers 32 models, 4 bows, 5 might (6 might, but shaman will channel fury) Basically a fight 4 front line with decent strength, a s4 d6 spear line, some 2 attack s4 stalkers and a couple of bows. Shagrat deals with heroic combats and captain for moves and maybe a strike. Better? |
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| Author: | Galanur [ Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Morder 500pts Reality Check |
If I was to go competitive with Mordor based on uruks I would go. (and a mix in it) Warband 1 Shagrat, warlader of Cirith Ungol 7 Black Guards of Barad Dur Warband 2 Uruk Hai Shaman with armour 8 Feral uruk hai 4 Uruk hai with crossbows Warband 3 Black Guard Captain with shield 4 Black Guards of Barad Dur total: 498pts models: 26 might: 6 Its low on numbers but if its teamed up, haradrim will bring numbers while you bring heavy punching... If you want a More fun list. Mordor 500pts Warband 1 Shagrat, warlader of Cirith Ungol 6 morannon orcs with shield 6 morannon orcs with shield and spear(1 with just spear) Warband 2 Ugluk 6 Isengard orcs with shield 6 Isengard orcs with spear warband 3 orc shaman 6 Mordor Orcs with shield 6 Mordor Orcs with spear warband 4 Gollum (hobbit version) total: 500pts models: 40 might: 8 mind yourself, even gollum is deadly with fight 5 with the ring!! |
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| Author: | jadin72 [ Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Morder 500pts Reality Check |
Galanur wrote: Warband 1 Shagrat, warlader of Cirith Ungol 7 Black Guards of Barad Dur Warband 2 Uruk Hai Shaman with armour 8 Feral uruk hai 4 Uruk hai with crossbows Warband 3 Black Guard Captain with shield 4 Black Guards of Barad Dur total: 498pts models: 26 might: 6 Its low on numbers but if its teamed up, haradrim will bring numbers while you bring heavy punching... My partner is likely bringing light cav, and I might be able to convince him to bring a taskmaster too. I like your idea of bringing Uruk Hai, but I think I'd prefer pike support. How about this list? Beefy Shagrat 6 Mordor uruks (mix of shield and 2h, I like 2h maces) Black guard drummer 10 BG Uruk Hai shaman 8 pikes 1 banner/shield 499, 3 might (one is channeling fury) low numbers but high durability. The reason I would really like the drummer is the scenarios we are playing are blockade, seize the prize and hold ground. In each extra movement will be extremely valuable and I like the idea of moving a whole 24 inch line with a centrally placed drum without having to worry about the mechanics of heroic march. |
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