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Author:  TurtleDogg [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Moria/Azog's hunters army

Here is the army I think might work, can I have some feedback.

Azog
Hunter orcs on fell wargs x 6

Fimbul
Hunter orcs x 12

Druzhag
Cave troll
Giant bats x 2

Wild warg chieftain
Wild wargs x 6

Fell wargs x 6

Author:  Bernardo [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

You are going to have problems with breaking fast, but it looks like a fun army to play. You should certainly try it!

Author:  TurtleDogg [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

Thanks! I will add more eventually.

Author:  Isilduhrr [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

Your infantry core is too small and weak. It WILL get pinned on its own if you use this list, particularly with the rest of your army moving fast. I'd say put in either more infantry (Moria goblins) or faster/stronger (Wargs or hunter orcs on Wargs). Even ordinary hunter orcs would be better than Gundabad orcs.

Try this:
Fimbul + Narzug
18 Hunter Orcs
Druzhag
3 Bat Swarms
Cave Troll
3 Fell Wargs.

Author:  TurtleDogg [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

I edited the post, I want wild warg and chieftain. How would that rate?

Author:  Isilduhrr [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

I'm confused as to what points level you're shooting for. I've been writing you 500 point lists, which is what you need as a beginner, but your original post equals 843 points, which is not commonly played.
You won't get Druzhag and Azog in one list, in fact you won't fit Azog in any optimal 500 point list, so I've been trying to work Druzhag in to your others, even though he doesn't really fit.
On top of that, you need to lead mounted troops with a mounted hero to help get the charge in, so don't leave Azog waddling in the dirt after all his Warg Riders sprint away from him.
What about, at 500 points:
Fimbul, Warg
6x Hunter Orcs on Fell Warg, Bow
6x Hunter Orcs
Narzug, Warg
12x Hunter Orcs
Wild Warg Chieftain
7x Wild Wargs

Author:  TurtleDogg [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

I don't mind about the points. I can always mix and match, and I usually play 1000 point games anyway. How would the army list be, maybe I could put a warg marauder in there. I definitely want to use druzhag, cave troll, fell wargs, azog and bats. And I would want to use the warg chieftain and wargs.

What about 1 warband of Azog's hunters.

Azog
Hunter Orcs on fell wargs x 6

Druzhag
Cave troll
Giant bats x 2

Fell wargs

Wild warg chieftain
wild wargs x 6

Maybe Gundabad orcs?

Author:  Isilduhrr [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

Druzhag
2x Bat Swarms
6x Wild Wargs
4x Warg Marauders

Azog, White Warg
6x Hunter orcs on Fell Warg

Fimbul, Warg
12x Hunter Orcs

Narzug
10x Hunter Orcs, Bow
2x Hunter Orcs


Numbers are low, but you're DEFINITELY going to pack a punch.

Author:  TurtleDogg [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

Could I replace the marauders for 2 cave trolls, and have a wild warg chieftain and wild wargs in another warband? The marauders are hard to get my hands on.

Author:  Isilduhrr [ Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria/Azog's hunters army

Well, that's 1000 points, so you're not going to fit the Warg chieftain in anywhere. I'd recommend sticking with the Marauders, as they are devastating on the charge, add lots of bowfire, and complement your other fast moving units very well. They're an easy enough conversion if you have a few spare Wargs and Moria Goblins (in fact, I'd recommend not buy the GW Marauder at all - mine continuously fell apart, melted, warped and changed shape).

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