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Author:  TurtleDogg [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Moria and Angmar and Azog's Hunters army

Hey, this is my first post. I wanted to ask what I should do for a moria/angmar and Azog's hunters in one army list. I already have fell wargs and a cave troll. I don't mind about the points, 1000 would be good. Thanks!

Author:  Galanur [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria and Angmar and Azog's Hunters army

Tricky question pal...

Ultimately its up to your taste more than anything :)

Good for you is that those fell wargs dont need warband leader and if you do you can name a spider queen from moria scourcebook as your overall army leader.
Anyway back to topic.

The most usefull list are normally made up of goblins
If you wanna be competitive I would recommend

Moria goblins Or Goblin town ones, either works for your purpose, but you need some major key characters.

Moria major characters:
- some are more required than others for example ultimately a moria goblin shaman is almost the top priority, if you take goblins you have to get at least 1 of these although its recommended getting 2.
- Durburz is the king of moria, hes a brawler and unusually strong in goblin standart, also he got 3 might point and his iron fist rule which can be really usefull..
- groblog its a bit weaker king compared to Durburz, but it works better if your army overall includes shamans, cause of his mithril crown your shamans wont need to spend might points to call channeled fury to make that effective, so it saves them points and its extremly usefull just by that.
- dhurzag I would just look for him if your taking monsters and beasts as majority of your list (wargs, spiders bats and trolls) hes expensive but worthwhile with the right list
- dragons, drakes, balrog and watcher more up for taste and I think you need to learn to use em.
- ashrak its interesting, like a bit enhance shaman.
- gundabad blackshield shaman its interesting
- remain stuff its okish but dpeends on taste.

Angmar
- trick and can be expensive with spirits around, but a very fun army, also let you have some nazgul´s
- burdhur the trollchief its an interesting choice for a cheap troll captain variation.

Azog´s hunters
- can include very powerfull melee characters
- hunter orcs are a curious variation of the orcs squishy but deadly its worth it.
- hunter orcs on warg are meh, expensive still squishy and not as good like on foot ones, still can be interesting
- i mentioned above and also include are cheap and decent medium lvl heroes with lots of might points.
- you got the armoured side of the azog´s hunters but those are just like morannon orcs, they gain on defence and lose a bit on offense capabilities.


If you want to make a 3 list way I would recommend:

Moria:
2 goblin shaman
1 groblog
warriors:
varies on your taste but I would recommend horde with a bit of monsters

Angmar
Burdhur then I would just keep this way, remain depends they are expensive
barrow wight can be an alternative.

Azog hunters.
Fimbul
hunter orc captain on foot
gundabad captain with shield
then majority hunter orcs, some gundabad with shields
several wargs
Bolg and azog depends they are expensive yazneg meh narzug can work..

Author:  SouthernDunedain [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria and Angmar and Azog's Hunters army

Trying to get all 3 of those forces into one list without compromising competitive will be hard. If I was to recommend two, I would ally Angmar and Azog's Hunters together.

This is mainly because Angmar have access to the Orc Shaman which will make your Hunter Orcs (and Angmar Orcs) 10x better. Auto passing courage tests is amazing.

At 1000pts, I would take at least Azog or Bolg, you need a big hitter or two to deal with other big heroes. Plus hunter orcs are so cheap it makes up for the mega expensive heroes.
You could also take some orc spearmen from angmar to support your hunter orcs, giving you a nice 3 attack line.

Maybe something like

Azog (New profile) on White Warg
10 Hunter Orcs on foot
2 Hunter Orcs on fell warg

Fimbul w/ warg
10 Hunter Orcs on foot
2 Hunter Orcs on fell warg

Angmar Orc Shaman
4 Angmar Orcs w/ Shield
8 Angmar Orcs w/ spear

Buhrdur
Cave Troll
10 Angmar Orcs (5 shield, 5 spear)

Barrow-wight
2 spectres.

This is 986 points, can fill the remaining 14 with whatever.

Author:  TurtleDogg [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria and Angmar and Azog's Hunters army

Thanks for the long post.
How about something like this.

Druzhag
Giant bats
Cave troll

Wild warg chieftain
Wild wargs

Witch king of angmar
Barrow wights
Dead marsh spectres

Azog
Hunter orcs on fell wargs

Fimbul
Gundabad Orc spearmen
Gundabad Orc swordsmen

Author:  TurtleDogg [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria and Angmar and Azog's Hunters army

Are you sure buhrdur can lead cave trolls because buhrdur is in angmar and cave troll is in moria. I also want to go for a more monster oriented list.

Author:  Badner [ Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Moria and Angmar and Azog's Hunters army

Cave trolls are in both lists.

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