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You'll be outnumbered, and with only F3 and D5, will likely be killed in combat unless the dice are very in your favor. Faramir will only do so much before he dies, as well. I'd definitely consider an infantry contingent.

I would just take Faramir and a typical Gondor shieldwall; a nice, realiable, solid army. Here's a list off the top of my head (so please excuse any mistakes):

Faramir with heavy armour - 75pts
10 Warriors of Minas Tirith with shield - 80pts
10 Warriors of Minas Tirith with spear and shield 90pts
Total - 245pts

you are both forgetting the 33% rule....
out of all your warriors, only 33% of them can have bows...

heros dont apply to this rule

No, I'm not, Minas Tirith allies with Ithilen. Ithilien's hero is Damrod so that is legal. Ithilien don't have an archer limitation.

spuds4ever wrote:

No, I'm not, Minas Tirith allies with Ithilen. Ithilien's hero is Damrod so that is legal. Ithilien don't have an archer limitation.

Yes they do. Where did you read they didn't? Only Grey Company has no limit, if you take the right configuration.

Author:	archmage45 [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:07 am ]
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So I went through my stuff, and I don't quite have enough to run Isengard, and even if I did I'd still have to assemble and paint over a dozen warg riders. So I've decided to go with Gondor. Here's my thought for my first 250 points: Faramir w/ heavy armor, lance, horse 12 knights of minas tirith Small, fast, and hard hitting. I'd toss in a couple of shields, but my knights are the older metal versions, and I don't have shields to physically put on them. Thoughts?

Author:	General Haar [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:06 pm ]
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You'll be outnumbered, and with only F3 and D5, will likely be killed in combat unless the dice are very in your favor. Faramir will only do so much before he dies, as well. I'd definitely consider an infantry contingent.

Author:	spuds4ever [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:50 pm ]
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General Haar wrote: You'll be outnumbered, and with only F3 and D5, will likely be killed in combat unless the dice are very in your favor. Faramir will only do so much before he dies, as well. I'd definitely consider an infantry contingent. Yes, 13 models is far too low troop count even for a 250 pts. match. I agree with this suggestion.

Author:	archmage45 [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:06 pm ]
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Ok, what about this: Faramir w/ heavy armor, lance, horse 6 knights of minas tirith 5 WoMT w/ spear + shield 4 WoMT w sword + shield That brings me up to 16 models. Or would archers be more useful? I could bring 10 WoMT with bows. Or for the same points 10 rangers.

Author:	General Elessar [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:12 pm ]
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I would just take Faramir and a typical Gondor shieldwall; a nice, realiable, solid army. Here's a list off the top of my head (so please excuse any mistakes): Faramir with heavy armour - 75pts 10 Warriors of Minas Tirith with shield - 80pts 10 Warriors of Minas Tirith with spear and shield 90pts Total - 245pts

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Author:	Mouth-of-Sauron [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:05 pm ]
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No no no no way , you must have bows too Faramir w/heavy armor-75pts 5xWoMT w/shield & spear-45pts 5xWoMT w/shield-40pts 5xWomt w/bow-40pts at this point you have 16 models and 50points left (i.e its 200 pts above) 1)What I´d add is Denethor or Beregond and then a couple of WoMTs 2)but with a more stabilized list I would add 6 more WoMTs boosting the army total to 22 Faramir w/heavy armor-75 7xWoMTs w/shield & spear-63pts 7xWoMTs w/shield-56pts 7xWoMTs w/bow-56pts Anyway You still need bows... OR You could use Rangers of Gondor instead of WoMTs giving you a slightly less defended but better killing shooters

Author:	whafrog [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:10 pm ]
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If you take knights, give them shields. The One Ring book doesn't allow it, but the Gondor in Flames sourcebook does. No point spending all those points on something that can die 33% of the time to an orc.

Author:	Shadowswarm [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:42 am ]
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1st question, are you playing more to win or for fun? if more so to win go for infantry (with max bows...) if for fun get some knights in there as the extra mobility makes it more fun (at least in my opinion) but if you find a way to get shields on your knights then go ahead and get them...

Author:	archmage45 [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:14 pm ]
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If anyone has any spare shields for my knights, I could use 15 or so! I unfortunately went ahead and got a bunch of the metal version before the plastic version and the shields were available. The list goes from 250 to 500 next week, so if I don't add knights now, I'll add them next week. If I went max bows I could bring 11, which would allow me to volley fire for the first turn or two of the game. If I do that, the list will look like this: Faramir w/ heavy armor - 75 11x WoMT w/ Bow 88 6x WoMT w/ spear + shield 4x WoMT w/ shield 249 points and 22 models total And I don't see why I can't have fun and win!

Author:	spuds4ever [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:20 pm ]
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General Elessar wrote: I would just take Faramir and a typical Gondor shieldwall; a nice, realiable, solid army. Here's a list off the top of my head (so please excuse any mistakes): Faramir with heavy armour - 75pts 10 Warriors of Minas Tirith with shield - 80pts 10 Warriors of Minas Tirith with spear and shield 90pts Total - 245pts I don't mean to annoy you but I much prefer shooting and flexibility (probably because I have elves.) Damrod 20 pts. 10 rangers of Gondor 80pts. Captain of Minas Tirith 50 pts. 8 warriors of Minas Tirith with shields 64 pts. 4 warriors of Minas Tirith with spears and shields 36 pts. Total: 250 pts. on the dot.

Author:	Shadowswarm [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:28 pm ]
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you are both forgetting the 33% rule.... out of all your warriors, only 33% of them can have bows... heros dont apply to this rule

Author:	archmage45 [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:41 pm ]
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Bother. Forgot totally about that. Looks like I'll have to do 777 and no volley fire. Faramir w/ heavy armor 7x WoMT w/ archers 7x WoMT w/ spear + shield 7x WoMT w/ shield 250 points 22 models

Author:	spuds4ever [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:38 pm ]
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Shadowswarm wrote: you are both forgetting the 33% rule.... out of all your warriors, only 33% of them can have bows... heros dont apply to this rule No, I'm not, Minas Tirith allies with Ithilen. Ithilien's hero is Damrod so that is legal. Ithilien don't have an archer limitation.

Author:	whafrog [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:17 pm ]
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spuds4ever wrote: No, I'm not, Minas Tirith allies with Ithilen. Ithilien's hero is Damrod so that is legal. Ithilien don't have an archer limitation. Yes they do. Where did you read they didn't? Only Grey Company has no limit, if you take the right configuration.

Author:	archmage45 [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:02 pm ]
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Ok, so the shield wall vs. dwarves didn't work out so well. I used Faramir w/ heavy armor 7x Rangers 7x WoMT w/ spear + shield 7x WoMT w/ shield I got squashed going against 8 dwarf warriors, 8 dwarf ironguard, and 1 captain. Game 2 - 500 points I brought: Faramir w/ heavy armor, lance, horse Damrod 8x Rangers 8x WoMT w/ spear + shield 7x WoMT w/ shield 15x Knights of Minas Tirith My opponent had: Goblin King (Jareth), 2 captains (as played by Sam and Frodo in orc armor), 2 shamans, 8 goblin prowlers, and the rest regular goblins. My dice liked me much better, and I won!! http://towerofthearchmage.blogspot.com/ ... games.html Now I'm wondering what to do for 750 points next week. I have a knight with a banner, I've got 6 more rangers, about a dozen WoMT archers, 4 or 5 each of WoMT with swords or spears, 3 citadel guard, Beregond, Gandalf the White, Boromir (both versions), the trebuchet, or I can start thinking about allies. I can also make a couple of guys into captains. Thoughts? For allies I've got a bunch of Riders of Rohan and warriors of rohan plus characters.

Author:	huttlord [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:48 pm ]
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I would think about adding Beregond. He's a cheap source of a might point and a good shot with a bow. Plus he's got the bodyguard rule and is ok in a fight. As for the other 225 pts, I'm not really sure... I guess add more to your shooting, add the knight with banner, and then just some more melee foot troops if you have the points.

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Author:	spuds4ever [ Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:16 pm ]
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whafrog wrote: spuds4ever wrote: No, I'm not, Minas Tirith allies with Ithilen. Ithilien's hero is Damrod so that is legal. Ithilien don't have an archer limitation. Yes they do. Where did you read they didn't? Only Grey Company has no limit, if you take the right configuration. Hmm? I was sure it was Ithilien as well which didn't need 33% archer limitation, whoops my bad

Author:	spuds4ever [ Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:28 pm ]
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Does Ithilien get knights?

Author:	ShadowMaster26 [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:36 am ]
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Ithilen does not get KoMT-however Faramir could just be from the White Tower of Ecthelion list, which has them, and Damrod is from Ithilen, so it is legal.

Author:	spuds4ever [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:06 pm ]
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think it is. Even if the WoMT come from the Ithilien list, you still have gone over the bow limit for Ithilien.