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Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:53 am ]
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What material or method do you use?

Previously I used local spray primer but I want something good quality and thin.

Ive heard liquid primer but it worries me and Idk why.
Author:  Nevinsrip [ Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:45 am ]
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Walmart flat black spray cans. 97 cents a can and covers like a dream.
Author:  Gandlaf the Grey [ Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:23 pm ]
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Vallejo primers through an AB
Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:19 am ]
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Nevinsrip wrote:
Walmart flat black spray cans. 97 cents a can and covers like a dream.


Are you messing with me? Haha
Author:  Nevinsrip [ Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:24 am ]
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Nope. Best primer around for both metal and plastic. I'm not kidding. Try it.

NEW YORK ISLANDERS 1980,1981,1982,1983 NHL CHAMPIONS.
A REAL DYNASTY. 19 STRAIGHT PLAYOFF SERIES WINS.
A RECORD THAT WILL NEVER BE BROKEN.
Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:36 pm ]
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Haha alright Im not going to get into the debate between hockey from the 80s play style, the next time a team will have success close to the current Hawks, and salary cap because we could go on forever... I mean... I hope youre not mocking me or being insulting purposefully. Hard to tell through text. Anyway also hard to follow hockey that happened when I wasnt alive.

I wish the current Islanders all the luck. I like their play style and roster.
And I will try the primer.
Author:  Oldman Willow [ Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:16 am ]
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I also use Walmart primer.Black and gray Wish they still had the red oxide too.
Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:40 pm ]
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Lmao alright going today
Author:  Nevinsrip [ Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:28 am ]
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Not messing with you about the primer. It goes on nice and thin because it's cheap paint.
If you are priming metal figures, heat them up with a hair dryer first before spraying. The paint will melt into the hot figure and form a "skin" over which you can apply paint.

NEVER NEVER spray on a humid day. Got that....... NEVER.

As for Hockey:

Dude, I saw Bobby Hull & Stan Mikita play at MSG back in the 6 team league days. That's how far back, I go. Those Isles teams were the best I ever saw.
Hats off to the Hawks for winning the Cup. Different era's are hard to compare. Could the Isles have kept all 17 players that won 4 Cups with them in the salary cap era....NOPE. But you play by the rules you're given.
And thanks for Nick Leddy.
Author:  Oldman Willow [ Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:53 pm ]
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NEVER NEVER spray on a humid day. Got that....... NEVER.

It is always humid here. The can needs to be the same temperature as the air so as not to condense as much moisture.When you have to move the miniatures from the AC to outside to spray prime, wait a few minutes for the miniatures to reach the outside air temperature. It is about 78F in the house but well over 92F outside. Probably 90% humidity.That will frost the primer. Keep both the miniatures and the spray can in the shade.Leaving Fine cast in the sun down here will make you very unhappy.

Dew point
The dew point is the temperature at which the water vapor in a sample of air at constant barometric pressure condenses into liquid water at the same rate at which it evaporates. At temperatures below the dew point, water will leave the air. The condensed water is called dew when it forms on a solid surface. Paint frost is caused by condensed water.The water condenses around the paint particles. I am sure someone can provide a better explanation. Reduce the difference between the air temperature and the spray can temperature will reduce the problem.

Warming the miniatures is not something I have tried. It is rarely cool enough for spay paint not to work properly here.

Warning about primer. Take care with sandable primer some of the autobody primers must be sanded. Try them first. The Flat black brand I use is thin paint and works well but requires several thin coats. The gray primer can be sanded. I use it for small autobody repairs too.

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Photo of the Walmart brand green I use to base coat my home treated litchin. Get the flat black or flat white. The Gray primer can be sanded but works fine for miniatures.
Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:07 pm ]
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@nevins I bought it and used it and wow it is nice. Used it on a cool cloudy day and it does look very well because of the quality ahaha.

And yeah man can't argue that that and other teams were better. In a series of 7 now who knows maybe the Hawks would get swept haha. But I'm 26 and the oldest team I've had was Roenick, Amonte, Belfour, Savard, etc era. Other than that we were in the abyss for years haha.
And yeah...Leddy....I was aggravated we got rid of him he's a good player. Quenville is overrated. He's good but he mismanages guys like that a lot.

I hope the Isles do well. I like Tavares Okposo Leddy of course. Few others. Loved how they shut Ovi down haha. Their checking line is fun to watch.
Author:  a Hobbit [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:02 pm ]
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DO NOT USE RUST-OLEM SPRAY, IT WILL RUIN YOUR MINIS!
Author:  Oldman Willow [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:08 pm ]
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a Hobbit wrote:
DO NOT USE RUST-OLEM SPRAY, IT WILL RUIN YOUR MINIS!

Why?
Author:  jdizzy001 [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:31 pm ]
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I'm a fan of krylon. Been using it for years.
Author:  a Hobbit [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:54 pm ]
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Oldman Willow wrote:
a Hobbit wrote:
DO NOT USE RUST-OLEM SPRAY, IT WILL RUIN YOUR MINIS!

Why?

i tryed it on a few orcs, the paint stayed in the recesses and did not cover the mini, but the detail was completly ruined :sad:
Author:  ja33 [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:54 pm ]
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I've had good success with Krylon as well...it's relatively cheap, it's available everywhere in the US, and you can get it in black, white, grey or brown. I prefer grey but they all work pretty good...
Author:  Jobu [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:34 am ]
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I have had very good luck with the Valspar brand Premium primer at lowes, it comes in white, grey and black. This is not a sandable primer, it covers well without hiding details. I just did some infinity miniatures with it and all the detail is still very visible. I do not do the typical "sweep" over the miniature when I prime though. I use "puffs" directly onto the miniature, like they do here. Valspar also make "paint and primer" in a similar can in a huge variety of colors. I have yet to try it.
I also use Vallejo primer and brush it on. Depends entirely on how many models I am painting at the time.
Author:  Oldman Willow [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:52 am ]
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a Hobbit wrote:
Oldman Willow wrote:
a Hobbit wrote:
DO NOT USE RUST-OLEM SPRAY, IT WILL RUIN YOUR MINIS!

Why?

i tryed it on a few orcs, the paint stayed in the recesses and did not cover the mini, but the detail was completly ruined :sad:


Sorry but that could have been caused by not shaking the can properly and/or trying to spray too close. I have never had a problem with Rust-olem.
Author:  jdizzy001 [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:31 am ]
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ja33 wrote:
I've had good success with Krylon as well...it's relatively cheap, it's available everywhere in the US, and you can get it in black, white, grey or brown. I prefer grey but they all work pretty good...

I've used black, grey and white primer. I prefer white, but they all have their benefits.
Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:22 pm ]
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Honestly guys, I bought this stuff, used it, and I love it. Thanks a million. Cant believe the cheapest result is the best thus far.
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