Yes, I see no place for historical miniature used in the Strategy Battle Game.
hmmm...
Bilbo wrote:
Yes, I see no place for historical miniature used in my Lord of the Rings SBG games.
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There you go, fixed that for you.
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Tolkien has clear influences on his work some of which are historical, many are mythological or even religious, but however strong, they are influences used to create fictional characters and peoples. He has in no way cut and pasted any historical people or persons into his work!
And just when did I say Tolkien copy & pasted historical cultures
verbatim into the LOTR? I actually said...
"the Rohirrim are essentially Anglo Saxons with a strong equine culture". Not that they're exactly the same, copied verbatim from history.
But you cannot deny that the Rohirrim are heavily based on the Anglo Saxons. From their weaponry, armour, combat doctrine and culture, even down to the language Tolkien invented for them relying heavily on Old English.In fact, of all the races and cultures in the LOTR, they are probably the closest to their real world inspiration.
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I have no problem with scratch built miniatures created as characters etc from some ones imagination/interpretation from reading the Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit which are essentially fantasy, because they are using Lord of the Rings miniatures, not something else!
Yeah, sure, because
everyone has the time, skills and resources to scratch build their own models.
And besides, what would be wrong with taking Historical models and
converting them to better resemble the Rohirrim? The Gripping Beast Saxon Thegns I mentionted, would work every well with the addition of greenstuffed cloaks, and equine imagery - freehand designs of horses painted onto shields and banners.
Who knows, maybe I'll do this myself once I've cleared my backlog, and I feel confident enough in my conversion skills.
Why do you such a severe aversion to using miniatures from non GW ranges, whatever the circumstances?
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In the same way that the fictional Empire in Star Wars were as George Lucas has said, heavily influenced by the Nazi's, even having their basic troops called Storm Troopers, I would not expect to include their historical influences as a viable stand in.
Ah, you and your absurd hyperbolic examples...Theres no way I would have even considered doing that, because you know...Nazi soldiers do not actually look like Imperial Stormtroopers.
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Reversing the situation, I would not expect to field my rangers of Gondor in a re enactment of the battle of Hastings!
Well no. Neither would I.
Because Rangers of Gondor do not remotely look like Anglo Saxons or Normans..
Using Nazi's as Imperial Stormtroopers, and Rangers of Gondor as Norman archers are a long, long way from using say, Anglo Saxon miniatures
(who wear "chain"-mail, wield large shields axes spears and swords and fight in dense Shield Wall formations)...as Rohirrim
(who also wear "chain"-mail, wield large shields axes spears and swords and fight in dense Shield Wall formations...what a surprise...).
Arguing with you over these sorts of things is like arguing with a colourblind person who can only see in Black and White.
You attitude always seems to be
(IMO) "you must not deviate from my narrow vision of what is acceptable in the Lord of the Rings SBG. Scratch your own models. Don't
ever/i] use historical miniatures, because they're not pure enough to use in a fantasy universe."
Whether my interpretation of your position ^ is right or wrong, thats how I'm interpreting it. So surely you can see why I get so riled up whenever argue about things you and Southern Dunedain et al. think other players shouldn't do [i]with their own miniature collections.
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There are lots of great Dark Age alternatives.
Well said Bilbo.
