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Barbarians of middle Earth. Dunland and Ruhdar combined.

The Horde Lord wrote:

Barbarians of middle Earth. Dunland and Ruhdar combined.

No they should not, that would be racist, different barbarians look different!

What theyshould do are Werewolves, Carn Dum Barbarians, Queen Beruthiel. And Mordor Uruk-hai and Varaigs should go in plastic amongst others.

Tolkien was against racism, and I don't care if it would save you money. The Orcs all come from the same place, and unlike 'Barbarians' they do not always adapt differently, the mountian dwelling Moria Orcs being a notable exception. They haven't made models of unarnmoured High Elves, people use Wood Elves as proxies.

No Werewolves should not be shapechangers, unless they are Sauron.

Beorn is not a Werewolf, Sauron does turn into a werewolf, Beorn turns into a massive Bear. But Beorn will be getting a model anyway a la Hobbit film.

Author:	Men of the East [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:47 pm ]
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GW produces a variety of figures from lots of armies, which figures do you think GW should make, remodel or convert (from metal to plastic)? So far i thought; -Warriors of Arnor (plastic figures of spearmen, bowmen and swordsmen) -Mounted Knights of Arnor -Mounted warriors of Numenor -Numenor Command -remodel the warriors of the last alliance pack (replace numenor warriors with high elf spearmen) -Warriors of Numenor (plastic figures of spearmen, bowmen and swordsmen) -Men of Dale -Men of Rhaudur -Easterling Dragon Knights on foot (even if a metal blister of 3) -Fornost Rangers -Black Numenoreans (like from BFME series) -Warriors of Dol Amroth (similar to men-at-arms but with swords, bowns and spears) -High Elf Knights on horseback -Orcs of Dol Guldur -Morgul Knights on foot -Mirkwood wood elves -Mirkwood armoured elves -Remodel the Black numenoreans and make plastic (more like from BFME) as a angmar army -Hill and mountain trolls -Goblins of the Northen Kingdom (as with others mentioned will be released with the Hobbit) -wood elves mounted -Rangers of the North (plastic kit) Editions from feedback; -Arnor royal guard -Mordor Uruk hai command -Hobbit warrios (plastic set) P.S please reply with your own ideas and those good enough will be listed

Author:	Dead Marsh Spectre [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:53 pm ]
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Fingolfin, Feanor, Finrod, Finarfin - the list is endless. Last alliance elves could do with a revamp, only 4 plastic poses available and there pretty difficult to convert (I should know, I'm about 2 days off finishing 14 sword/shield conversions......i'll tell you what it was hard )

Author:	The Horde Lord [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:59 pm ]
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Barbarians of middle Earth. Dunland and Ruhdar combined. They shouldn't make the First age minatures as they don't fit in sat wise. I.e. Feanor fought 5 balrogs and killed 2. meaning that in order to beat him the evil player would need at least 1200 points. Therea are lots of potential in Numenor and Eriador.

Author:	Men of the East [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:05 pm ]
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There is a lot of potential with numenor and eriador, but they should just (for now) make it a possiblity to create a full army of both heroes and warriors. However as the Hobbit is coming out in December I doubt they will, which is sad as I think they will start to overlook LOTR figures and focus more on the Hobbit

Author:	John Wayne [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:16 pm ]
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Err yeah dream on. GW have only re-released the popular miniatures as finecast. I do hope so but i dont see it happening. Apart from that, they all should go from metal to plastic or even resin (i dont like metal). Its just a real shame.

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Author:	GothmogtheWerewolf [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:26 pm ]
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The Horde Lord wrote: Barbarians of middle Earth. Dunland and Ruhdar combined. No they should not, that would be racist, different barbarians look different! What theyshould do are Werewolves, Carn Dum Barbarians, Queen Beruthiel. And Mordor Uruk-hai and Varaigs should go in plastic amongst others.

Author:	The Horde Lord [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:35 pm ]
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GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: The Horde Lord wrote: Barbarians of middle Earth. Dunland and Ruhdar combined. No they should not, that would be racist, different barbarians look different! What theyshould do are Werewolves, Carn Dum Barbarians, Queen Beruthiel. And Mordor Uruk-hai and Varaigs should go in plastic amongst others. Greates post ever. To bad they made Mordor Orcs look the same as Angmar Orcs and Orcs of Dol Guldur (and Isengard as well), the list goes on and on, Rohan, Rangers, Easterlings, Harad and Elves, Yeah, an unarmoured HE looks excactly like a wood elf. Besides, racism is the foundation on which all fantasy is built. Lotr is basicly a lecture in geneocide and enslavement of other races/species. It's just to help people save money.

Author:	samoscar09 [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:48 pm ]
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I Really want more choices for arnor as it is really limiting in what to use which is why have yet to make an arnor army

Author:	The Horde Lord [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:36 pm ]
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GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: Tolkien was against racism, and I don't care if it would save you money. The Orcs all come from the same place, and unlike 'Barbarians' they do not always adapt differently, the mountian dwelling Moria Orcs being a notable exception. They haven't made models of unarnmoured High Elves, people use Wood Elves as proxies. Wheter Tolkien was against racism or not doesen't really change the fact that Lotr has far more inter-racial wars than intra-racial wars (as opposed to the real world). You don't care if it saves me money? That's mean, and it's not just me, it's everyone. In Tolkiens work, all elves come from the same place, alle men come from the same place, all dwarves come from the same place. And in the real world, all humans come from the same place. As I said in my original post there are many other examples. Take rangers of middle earth for example, they can be used as Rangers of Gondor, Rangers of Arnor and now also Rangers of Ithilien (or whatever they are called) I mean RoI/RoG lived quite far away from Arnor, you would expect them to be a little different? But they are the same. And if give me some nonsense about Arnor and Gondor both being from Numeneor I will literaly ROFLMAO. Edit: Note that race in fantasy and RW are not the same thing.

Author:	Valamir [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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Ha! Amusing. I'd have to side with Gothmog in this debate. But to stay on topic, working with Eriador would be very nice. Some genuine Angmar sculpts would be exquisite, such as various Carn Dum types.

Author:	that-one-elf [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:04 pm ]
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GW really needs some plastic hobbits (not finecast, but an actuall box set of em), some plastic fiefdoms, and some stuff from Children of Hurin would be awesome (too bad Chris Tolkien just has to be like that )

Author:	Men of the East [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:37 pm ]
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completely agree with you samoscar09 more arnor figures would be nice, they are very limited. p.s people please stay on topic nobody here is being racist (plus its all fictional, if i said I hate hobbits im not racist) And I agree finecast is aweful, I bought the Elrond and Gil-galad finecast. Elronds body was warped and needed serious filing, and Gil-galad had only half his head.

Author:	Pindergorn [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:56 pm ]
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I hate Oompa Loompa's. Can't stand the little orange buggers...Oops, did I say that out loud? Re: First Age miniatures. I seriously doubt we'll ever see a serious effort to tackle the Silmarillion until a decent Film based on that book is made. GW wouldn't risk it unless they had some quality concept material i.e. a Film to draw on. After all, their best work has always been the models and material that were influenced by the film aesthetics. So First Age models are a non starter. What I would like to see, in order of preference. 1. Evil Spirits. An evil, Angmar-centric equivalent to the Army of the Dead. (In which case the AotD should be relabelled Men of Dunharrow or whatever their city was called). 2. Werewolves. These I think should be more like Shape-shifters. Think of the Shape-shifting native American tribe in the Twilight Saga; the Dire-Wolves in A Game of Thrones; or even the real world, pre-historic Saber Tooth cat sized Dire-Wolves - basically abnormally large Wolves. BIGGER than even Wargs. And there is a precedence in Middle Earth with Beorn and his people who can transform into Bears. In that context, I imagine Werewolves as shapeshifters who come under the sway of Sauron, becoming evil and more animal than human. 3. More options for Arnor. Maybe an Elite unit e.g. Royal Guards. Some cavalry perhaps. And a catapult, trebuchet or ballista (just because I think Siege weapons are cool In fact I think there could/should be generic siege weapons for most races perhaps based on the mordor catapult and siege bow, the Battlecry trebuchet and Uruk Hai ballista. This could be in the form of a single plastic box, with extra bits (spikes, severed heads etc) to allow for variation).

Author:	GothmogtheWerewolf [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:18 am ]
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Whilst Chris Tolkien is alive, none of the books that are not LotR and the Hobbit woll ever have films, model sor other merchandise. LotR and the Hobbit have a different owner. I forgot to mention Stone Giants, Mordor Uruk Command and more. No Werewolves should not be shapechangers, unless they are Sauron.

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Author:	Pindergorn [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:19 am ]
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GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: No Werewolves should not be shapechangers, unless they are Sauron. Or Beorn? Would you care to justify that statement? Like I said, there is a precedence. Beorn and co. can transform into bears. I think its enirely possible that there are/were other people(s) who can transform into other creatures. The concept of shapeshifters I tnink would be fit better with Middle Earth than your average Hollywood style bipedal Werewolf who transforms every full moon, has a vulnerability to silver and creates new Werewolves through a bite or claw wound.

Author:	Pindergorn [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:29 am ]
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GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: Beorn is not a Werewolf, Sauron does turn into a werewolf, Beorn turns into a massive Bear. But Beorn will be getting a model anyway a la Hobbit film. Well obviously, because then he would transform into a WOLF and not a Bear. And remember this is Middle Earth, not Hollywood horror films. Tolkien may well have taken the term 'Werewolf' as a loose, catch-all phrase to mean things that can transform into Wolves. Just like with the Balrog and his 'Wings of shadow', 'Werewolf' may be more poetic licence than literal application of mainstream culture. Like I said, I think a concept similar to Twilight style shape-shifters or Game of Thrones/Real world Dire Wolves (both quadrupedal) would be better than the typical Hollywood style bipedal Werewolf.