whafrog wrote:
VictoryGin wrote:
Boar cavalry? Yes please!
And Tolkien wept...
...as did I
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| Author: | Balin, son of Fundin [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRAbSX1ySeY Stop at 2.28 (approx) for a view of a new dwarf armor design. |
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| Author: | VictoryGin [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
I noticed this, it also seems like he is bobbing up and down as if he is mounted. Boar cavalry? Yes please! VG |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... |
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| Author: | Leonardis [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
whafrog wrote: VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... ...as did I
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| Author: | The Arkenstone [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
whafrog wrote: VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... You don't have to buy them |
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| Author: | Balin, son of Fundin [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
Leonardis wrote: whafrog wrote: VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... ...as did I Let's not jump to conclusions, to me it looks like he is running on the treadmill we see him fall off a few seconds later, not riding on a mount. |
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| Author: | Creaky [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
I'm fine with Boar Cavalry. Sounds fun. It's in the same tier of fairytale whimsy as Radagast's Sleigh (which I also love, and feel so alone in that). I wouldn't accept it in LotR, but do accept it in the hobbit (despite both existing in the same world, I see the Hobbit as Bilbo telling a story, and like all good stories it gets some embellishment on the true facts the more it's told). Now, bring on Beornings on Beornings! Bear cavalry, ho! |
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| Author: | Gene Parmesan [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
whafrog wrote: VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... Whatever you may think, evoking Tolkien's hypothetical opinion is a poor line of argument. Tolkien himself couldn't see why Helm's Deep would be included in a film adaptation. In all likelihood he'd have hated the films, or at best been completely ambivalent regardless. |
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| Author: | mikeland [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
whafrog wrote: VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... It amazes me how many people presume to speak for Tolkien! 
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| Author: | Balin, son of Fundin [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
mikeland wrote: whafrog wrote: VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... It amazes me how many people presume to speak for Tolkien! In their defense, they do. Christopher Tolkien, that is 
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
whafrog wrote: VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... Becuase he never would have come up with talking purses, talking giant spiders, talking giant wolves, giant elephants, giant eagles or a guy who could turn into a bear. Oh, wait a minute. He did. I don't how boar cavalry could be any less Tolkien than wolf cavalry. |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
It amazes me how many people presume to speak for Tolkien! [/quote]In their defense, they do. Christopher Tolkien, that is [/quote]On a side note, from what I've heard, Christopher Tolkien is a purist about LotR, whereas his father wasn't. He might not like some of the changes, but he was quite willing to sell the rights because he needed the money. I don't think Christopher Tolkien would ever sell any of the rights, whether he needed the money or not. |
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| Author: | Dr Grant [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
Draugluin wrote: whafrog wrote: VictoryGin wrote: Boar cavalry? Yes please! And Tolkien wept... Becuase he never would have come up with talking purses, talking giant spiders, talking giant wolves, giant elephants, giant eagles or a guy who could turn into a bear. Oh, wait a minute. He did. I don't how boar cavalry could be any less Tolkien than wolf cavalry. Don't forget sheep carrying crockery on their backs whilst dogs stand on their hind legs and lay the table. Boar cavalry - absurd indeed.... |
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| Author: | rigg1313 [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
Looks like a plain Grim Hammer or if not something very similar? |
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| Author: | Balin, son of Fundin [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
rigg1313 wrote: Looks like a plain Grim Hammer or if not something very similar? Well, the helmet, weapon and shoulder pads are different to what we've seen so far |
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| Author: | Creaky [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
Definitely different - but in a similar style, though. Which bodes well for inclusion of them all within the same force. My fear was that they would have a totally unique visual aesthetic which would render it difficult to make them fit in. Now it seems as though the Iron Hills and Erebor Dwarves will fit in nicely alongside each other (the open face helms being the most noticeable difference, I think), hopefully there'll be something new alongside the strongly rumored Boar Cavalry - some sort of ranged weapon (crossbows?) It'd leave the Dwarves as a fairly well rounded army list (something the Hobbit is lacking in right now). |
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| Author: | black1blade [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
I just don't like the idea of boar cavalry. |
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| Author: | Dark Istari [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
I don't see this as a massive issue. If I remember correctly there was the Boar of Eversholt which may well have been used as an inspiration for this idea. And I agree with many of the comments about Tolkien not being a Middle Earth purist himself. This is fantasy. Having Dwarves riding armored Boars into battle would not look so out of place. It will give the Dwarves of the Iron Hills a specific image that the audience can remember as well as emphasizing how tough they are as taming wild Boars would be no easy task. They would also be highly effective in combat vs Wargs and it is a fact that Pigs are known to be more intelligent than dogs, and far more dangerous. So I don't feel that the idea is very ludicrous at all. |
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| Author: | Dorthonion [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
Guys, I think there has been a massive misunderstanding here. This is green screen work for a running dwarf. He is not mounted. |
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| Author: | mastermanje [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First sight of Iron Hills Dwarves? |
Dorthonion wrote: Guys, I think there has been a massive misunderstanding here. This is green screen work for a running dwarf. He is not mounted. Yeah, but still, didn't the Dain actor say something about a boar earlier, or am I mistaken? |
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